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Choosing the Right Patient

It takes a long time to become a surgeon and when it is all over and the shingle gets hung, all physicians must spend a great deal of energy for the rest of their working lives soliciting patients.  Some surgeons do this very aggressively with marketing, TV, Radio, etc. while others do it more subtly while still others merely join a busy group.  Whatever route a doc takes while he or she to put time and effort into pleasing current patients and procuring new ones. With all this focus on “getting patients and getting busy”, young surgeons are very attuned to accepting almost any case.  “you go into practice, you are not busy, you need patients and bang, here is one sitting in front of you with a check book and surgical request” .  It can be really hard to say no, especially for those surgeons just beginning their surgical journey.  “If someone walks into a car dealership and wants a car and has the cash, no one would ever consider saying no; but patients are not commodities and lives can be affected (doctor and patient) by accepting the wrong patient.

Any surgeon that has been in practice for a decade or longer at some time or another knowingly or unknowingly accepted a surgical case that, in retrospect, they shouldn’t have.   This is how we learn.  Unfortunately, it is not easy as there is not frank quantification.  I have always said that if someone could invent a device that you touch on a patient and it says “good patient, average patient, or bad patient”, our lives would be easier.  Too bad for us, that is not possible.  “I really think it takes years and unfortunately, getting burned a few times for the average doc to realize, wow, I will never do that again, on that type of person!”  Even experience docs sometimes miss the mark.  I have accepted patients that I thought were extremely stable, only to see them become noncompliant and problematic.  I have, likewise, hesitantly accepted some patients that had questionable stability and they turned out to be model patients.  “we will never get it right 100% of the time, but realizing the “red flags” can make our lives easier.

Surgeons can have red flags too.  No surgeon should ever do any case “just for the money”.  We all know this but in tough economic times, some surgeons may relax their principles.  Apparently unstable patients should also be another red flag.  As much as we may want to do this surgery, this type of patient can make our professional and personal lives miserable as these patients can be very litigious and in some cases violent. A number of cosmetic surgeons have been murdered by disgruntled patients.  My advice to novice surgeons, pretend the board of medicine is sitting in the room when you evaluate this patient, follow you surgical instincts, (they got you this far), if something does not feel right, “just say no”!

Saying no sounds very easy, but in reality can be quite difficult.  Most of us are polite people and are running a business.  Most of us are honored when chosen by patients to be their surgeon and most importantly, most of us want to help our patients and please them.  So, when a patient presents to your office, requests your talents, has the situation that you know you can improve and has the financial ability to pay for it, saying no can be difficult.  Sometimes the patient makes it more difficult as they don’t want to take no for an answer.  They keep pushing and sometimes begging.  Then they pull out their tricks and begin ingratiating the surgeon.  They speak poorly of previous surgeons and over complimentary of you.  They may point out that they traveled a long way to see you or that “no one else understands them”.  Most of these people are experts at getting what they want (or think they want, or want at this second) and can be extremely persuasive.   I have been in practice for 27 years and have at times accepted the wrong patient.  These are the people that want their money back, will defame you with other people and surgeons, will call you 24 hours a day, and can be very disruptive.  It has  been said that 1% of your patients cause 99% of your problems, well, this is the 1%.  I have noticed a huge increase of this type of patient as the Internet has developed.  I, like many surgeons, went from seeing patients from all over my city, to all over my state, to all over other states, to other countries.  This increase in the patient pool can bring proportionally more unbalanced patients to the office.  Also, manipulating patients feed of off the Internet as it can find them more prospective “hits” as many surgeons in their geographic may have turned them down or know their M.O.  By the same token, I have had some of my best patient experiences with out of town patients.  There is not guarantee either way.

What are some of the signs that should alert a surgeon of a potentially problematic patient?  Much has been written on this subject and this list is never ending.  Here are some

Red Flags during the consultation.

  • Patients with known Body Dysmorphic Disorder or psychiatric condition.
  • Any overly narcissistic or immature patient.
  • Unfriendly or impersonal patients
  • Patients that don’t smile or may eye contact.
  • Patients that are too busy or too important for surgery
  • Patients that speak negatively about previous patients be are complimentary to you
  • Patients that won’t listen and just talk.
  • Patients that are having surgery for the wrong reason such as a failing marriage, promotion or in the midst of a loss.
  • Patients that cannot decide on a surgical plan or say “do what you think I need”.
  • Patients that are overly impulsive, want to book surgery at first evaluation appointment.
  • Patients with unrealistic expectations.
  • Patients the “know” more about a procedure than the surgeon.
  • Patients that tell the surgeon what procedure to in extreme detail.
  • Patients obsessed with online cosmetic surgery bulletin boards or cosmetic surgery sites.
  • Young patients that have already had numerous surgeries or request surgeries generally performed on older patients.
  • Patients over reacting to a small flaw.
  • Patients that complain about financial arrangements or are pushy about discounts or are otherwise “shoppers”.
  • Patients that insist on absolutely no photographic documentation or are resistant go give important information such as cell phone numbers, etc. and insist on “secrecy”. 
  • Patients desiring surgery with intense familial disapproval.
  • Patients that are rude or pushy.

So, how does a doctor say no to a patient?

Good surgeons frequently say “no”! This sounds easy but in reality may be difficult.  The best means I have found in doing is to simply tell the patient that I have considered their request and looked at everything carefully and “I don’t think I can make them happy”.  I do not get into details that may lead to arguments.  Although many surgeons may ask a patient to see a psychiatrist, I never do, that is not my job, and if a patient is in need of that much evaluation, it is probably a mistake to operate on them at this point.  Also, many patients are offended by such a request.   I am always polite and stay away from issues that may be offensive or insulting.  A patient can argue with me if I question their mental stability or motivations for surgery, etc.  No one can argue with my appraisal that “I don’t feel that I can make you happy”.

My advice to novice surgeons is to try to learn these pearls without making these mistakes themselves.  Speak to older colleagues that have experience with this type of patient.  Sharing others “war stories” can assist in optimizing the surgical experience.  An ethical surgeon and balanced and compliant patients are a rewarding experience.

Joe Niamtu, III DMD

Cosmetic Facial Surgery

Richmond, Virginia


October 16, 2010 Posted by | Choosing A Cosmetic Surgeon, cosmetic surgery addiction, Cosmetic Surgery Around the World, Cosmetic Surgery for the Wrong Reasons, out of town cosmetic facial surgery, Risks of Cosmetic Surgery, Surgeons Picking the Wrong Patient | Leave a comment

Medical Tourism: Is this an oxymoron?


With the extreme interest in cosmetic surgery many new avenues have appeared to mix surgery and recovery and medical tourism is one of them.  Medical tourism is the idea of having cosmetic surgery and recovering at a remote destination, usually a luxurious one.  On the surface, this may sound cool, but in reality, who really wants to spend their vacation with swelling, bruising, stitches and bandages.  I guess one could make an argument that the patient could go to the vacation spot a week early and enjoy the vacation, then have surgery and recover the second week.  This way, one can combine vacation and recovery…………….but why?  Personally, I can’t fathom combining the two.  I work hard and when I go on vacation, I want to enjoy it.  I don’t want to spend it in bed, especially in a recovery bed.  Another thing to consider is what type of medical facilities are available at the luxury destination.  I have been to some really beautiful places in my life, mountains, islands, wonders of the world, etc.  Few of any of these localities are known for their medical facilities any more than Cleveland Clinic is known for a vacation Mecca.  The news is replete with horror stories of patients that went to Mexico or South America for a “bargain” surgery and vacation and lived to regret it.  When I go on holiday, I want the best chefs, bartenders, and tour guides, when I have surgery I want the best facilities, medical staff and emergency equipment.  I think it is rare to find the combination of all of the above.  Not impossible, but uncommon.  Sunscreen or penicillin? Pina colada or pain pill?  Not the choice for me.  Hey, I was just saying……………………….


Joe Niamtu, III DMD

Cosmetic Facial Surgery

Richmond, Virginia



July 24, 2008 Posted by | medical tourism, out of town cosmetic facial surgery | | Leave a comment

Out of Town Cosmetic Facial Surgey

blogoutoftownMany patients decide to have cosmetic surgery in a location other than where they live.  Although patients have always traveled for surgery, it has become much more popular with the advent if the Internet.  I have had a web page for my cosmetic facial surgery practice for about 12 years, but it has only been over the last 5 years that out of town (and out of the country) patients have been significant.  In the information age, patients can now have “web consults” without leaving their home.  In addition, they can learn about their surgeon, procedures and much more.  Sometimes the information is confusing, especially for surgeons that are not credible or over rate the effects of a given procedure.  Some doctors imply facelift results for minimally invasive techniques, etc.  The words buyers beware exist with doctors as well as any service.  It is difficult for patients to sometimes sort through all the hype and get an accurate impression of the surgeon.  There are several indicators that appear to be consistent with reputable docs.

·         They have professional websites

·         They do not make claims that appear sensational

·         They will reasonably answer emails or communicate with prospective patients

·         Their work is adequately displayed in terms of many before pictures

·         Their before and after pictures are well standardized in terms of head position, lighting, size, etc.

·         They have meaningful and understandable explanations of procedures and relevant information

·         They have procedures in place to accommodate out of town patients

Most surgeons that are experienced in treating out of town patients have well set up policies for these patients such as hotel selection, travel directions, private nursing availablity, and the ability to compete registration, etc. online to maximize patient time.  If you contact a surgeon and their office seems clueless or disorganized about handling out of town patients, he or she probably does not see many distant patients. The goal of an office should be to make the consult, surgery and follow up as easy as possible for the out of town patient.  Again, offices with experience in this facet are set up to make it easy.

There are some advantages of seeking out of town surgeons and these include:

·         Privacy from the patient’s hometown

·         Techniques or expertise that may not be available in one’s hometown

·         Surgeons that have above average experience with a given procedure

Disadvantages of seeking out of town surgeons include:

·         The increased hassle of scheduling and traveling out of town

·         The possibility of complications that will require treatment when the patient returns home

·         The difficulty of follow up appointments

Most surgeons that have reputations that bring out of town patients are well known in cosmetic surgery circles and generally have colleagues all over the country (or world) that can step in should a patient experience complications when returning home.  This is an important question to ask before surgery!


Medical Tourism

Medical tourism (having surgery at a resort destination) has become popular but in my opinion is frivolous.  Who wants to spend their vacation in paradise with bandage, stitches, bruises and avoiding the beach!  Some of these types of situations are also less than reputable.  Don’t go for a procedure from a questionable surgeon just because the live in a nice place.


I  have enjoyed treating patients from all over the country (and world, for that matter)and this has been a fast growing part of my practice.  These patients are generally very educated in their knowledge about the procedures and make great patients.  Occasionally I see a patient that has truly unrealistic expectations and must go out of town because no local surgeons will treat them.  Warning signs for these potentially problematic patients include:

·         Very young patients that have already had multiple procedures untypical for their age

·         Patients that seem to know more about a procedure than their surgeon

·         Patients that have had numerous bad experiences with most of their former surgeons

·         Patients that present with morphed pictures of exactly how they expect to look and are demanding

·         Patients that expect a cosmetic procedure to change their life in ways that the average patient does not.

·         Patients that may have Body Dysmorphic Disorder where they are fixated on a certain insignificant cosmetic situation.

Traveling to a surgeon out of your area can be a very rewarding experience for both the patient and surgeon and like all other things in life, require some research.  See http://www.lovethatface.com/contact_cosmetic_surgeon_richmond_va/out_of_town_patients.html

for more information on how our office services out of town surgery patients.


Joe Niamtu, III DMD

Cosmetic Facial Surgery

Richmond, Virginia

April 4, 2008 Posted by | out of town cosmetic facial surgery | , | Leave a comment